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Is it time for the Jones experiment to end?


I am not one to write many articles. I am more of the shoot from the hip poster kind of person, but I have think I have seen enough. I vented yesterday in the Vol Talk podcast. I have went through the ups and downs of the Butch Jones era. I have watched and been hooked into the false optimism when the Vols finally got over the hump on a Florida team that looking back was not all that good. I was elated with the luck of the Georgia Hail Mary last year. Looking back, that seem so far away. I can honestly say my opinion of Butch Jones and his coaching and staff building cannot sink any lower than it is now. I am ready see this guy shown the door and I am not willing to support any reason that includes:

  • Bowl eligibility
  • Buy out reduction
  • Recruiting
None of these are enough at this point to watch another poorly coached game by this staff. The facts are pretty much irrefutable.
  • Jones currently holds an overall record in the SEC of 14–21 (Never won a game against anyone in the SEC West)
  • He's made a mockery of Tennessee in the press with stupid quotes like "Champions of Life and 5 star hearts and Reps and the list goes on and on
  • He as now been out scored by Alabama teams 192-61
  • Former Vols are questioning this guy all over social media
  • Over 15-20 recruits have left the program since Butch Jones was coach and 3 of them have moved on to much better things.
  • He has isolated himself with the media to where national news is just waiting for the next stupid thing he does
  • Point spread has been over 19 points against the Vols in 5+ games since he has been coach. That is homecoming game type spreads
  • Butch Jones is 3-12 against the Big Boys of SEC Alabama, Florida and Georgia.
This list could go on but the biggest thing I feel as I sit here in my office surrounded by all my Vol stuff is I am not angry anymore. I am disgusted. Disgusted for the fan base. Disgusted for the players. They deserve better. Disgusted that I am feeling something that no one should EVER feel about Tennessee football. I am feeling apathetic. I know we should never feel that way, but Butch Jones is bringing the worst out in me as a fan. That is not a good sign. You know when people tweet out that they would rather be mowing the grass next Saturday than watching the Vols play, it is bad. Does that make them bad fans? Of course not. They just don't need to subject themselves to more fan cruelty. I don't blame them. Butch Jones was supposedly this great players coach and great recruiter. Well he might be a good recruiter, but I would rather get someone who takes those recruits and improves them. Take a guy like Chris Peterson who is at Washington and doing well and then also he did well putting Boise State on the map. The average recruiting rank for his teams at Boise were 40th. Let that sink in. Then look at Dabo Swinney. The recruiting rankings in Clemson back before his Nation Title was around average of 14th to 15th every year. He developed his players and Clemson became better. I cannot fathom how anyone thinks Butch Jones should still be coach. We have asked multiple people to come on our Voltalk podcast and provide me one reason. I just cannot find one. I am standing my my opinion. The University of Tennessee tried to send through a medium paid coach from a mid tier college and slid it by us all. The administration knew they could get some decent work out of Jones and the fan base would still fill up Neyland and they could settle with a shimmer of hope from a mediocre coach at best. I am not only disgusted with Butch Jones, I am disappointed in the school administration trying to send this mediocre coach into Vol sports. Jones is a "Everyone gets a trophy" kind of coach and that is not needed now. The administration is close to losing the fan base and if John Currie is not smart and fixes this, he is in danger of screwing up in his first year as AD.

 

Tennessee has more money and resources than its ever had before and it now needs a coach to match those conditions. Vol football produced nearly $110 million in revenue and a profit of $81 million during the 2015–16 fiscal year, making it the single most profitable program in the SEC by a large margin. Waiting until the end of the season might make sense to some but I think it is a detriment to the fans and to the players. The players need to know what is going on. Early recruiting starts in December this year. Wait on making a decision until the end of the season doesn't make sense in my mind. So you might save on buyouts if the Vols don't make a bowl? IS that a gamble you want to take? I can see the Vols go 6-6 and John Currie says we are giving Jones another year. If that happens, I am totally off this train. I will support the players, but I cannot deal with another year of Butch Jones and that will leave more totally disappointed in the University Administration. I can just send 2 grand to the scholarship fund and leave the TV off. I will still support the students and athletes, but another year of Butch Jones I cannot stomach.

 

The settling for mediocre from the University of Tennessee needs to stop. It is time be done with this. I may be a "Vol for life, but I am not blind enough to be a "Backer of Butch".

 

In the words of Forrest Gump:

 

"That's all I got to say about that"

 

I am done. Time for change.

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36 Comments

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BigOrangeFan
Oct 24 2017 11:35 AM

Yeah @RobVol , not sure what the administration qualifications and skill-sets are to assess the situation.

 

By the way...we are now #52 in ESPN's FPI ranking, and what's even better is that the current line on the Southern Miss game at Neyland is EVEN...now if this program isn't headed in the right direction, then I must be punch-drunk.

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I'm punch drunk from watching the 2017 butchalisms...
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UltimateVolfan
Oct 25 2017 10:43 PM

With the karma trending downwards how much more has to happen? I bet Jones is just gone and Currie is waiting until the right time to show him the exit. A Kentucky loss will just about do it I think. WIth the Kelly suspension and recruits backing away from commitments and now there is rumors around a tweet from Cade Mays he wont play for mediocre team... What does that hint at? I think we all know...

 

sheesh even if this team wins out I bet it will be sloppy and and that is a BIG IF. I still see LSU and Missouri as losses. 

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You don't have to worry. Even when it looked like Tennessee might win last night, I said "Nah they won't win, Butch and team will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".

Kentucky gave them ever opportunity and still they found a way to lose. Stupid penalties, missing chip shot field goals, bad play calling...

Loved watching Chandler explode and even JG getting some good stats in but then I just felt disgust, because this inept staff will find a way to screw it up somehow or they'll only succeed on talent alone. What a damned shame.
Chandler was a beast! Our backfield is the lone bright spot this year. And G-Man was throwing some darts. He still made some major mistakes but that’s attributed to inexperience. Is it wrong to want the Vols to win but secretly hope for a loss just to get rid of the staff? That’s kinda where I’m at. I figure swallow a little pride now in the hopes that it accelerates positive changes in the future.
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Atomic City
Oct 29 2017 11:35 AM

Chandler was a beast! Our backfield is the lone bright spot this year. And G-Man was throwing some darts. He still made some major mistakes but that’s attributed to inexperience. Is it wrong to want the Vols to win but secretly hope for a loss just to get rid of the staff? That’s kinda where I’m at. I figure swallow a little pride now in the hopes that it accelerates positive changes in the future.

i hope whoever is next keeps Gillespie
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Is it wrong to want the Vols to win but secretly hope for a loss just to get rid of the staff? Well depends on who you ask. I for one, am not critical of folks who spend a lot of money and time to watch Tennessee athletics. I give them a lot more consideration than some teenager on some stupid Facebook vol group.

Knowing you and how you roll sky, nah nothing wrong for "you" to feel that way. A lot feel the same they just won't admit it.
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grevehallvol
Oct 29 2017 12:08 PM

I was secretly hoping a Kentucky loss would show Butch Jones the door.................  This season is toast anyway for the most part...........

 

 

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I used to secretly hope that losing would accelerate the process, kinda. But now I have decided that it doesn't make a difference. The admins havn't given me any reason to believe they are willing to do anything before seasons end. If they were, they would have already. At this point whats to look forward to?

So now I just pull for the Vols to win, much to my disappointment. That's where I'm at.

What I have been forced to consider is that bigger brains than mine have already entertained my thoughts. And for reasons unknown have thought their way past my point of view.

Often enough thats the way of it...
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SavageOrangeJug
Oct 29 2017 02:20 PM

I used to secretly hope that losing would accelerate the process, kinda. But now I have decided that it doesn't make a difference. The admins havn't given me any reason to believe they are willing to do anything before seasons end. If they were, they would have already. At this point whats to look forward to?

 

So now I just pull for the Vols to win, much to my disappointment. That's where I'm at.

Exactly!

 

NOTHING can be gained by retaining Jones from this point forward.

 

We are now Vanderbilt or Ole Miss with a bigger stadium.

 

I guess we just learn to deal with it.

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BigOrangeFan
Oct 31 2017 03:34 PM

We are the #6 'overall' program in the SEC --- (just my opinion, which ain't worth much).

That won't cut it.

Who's got the best chance to get us back to #1-2 in the SEC?

I respect the popularized Saban "process thinking" , but we've got to be long-sighted and map out what and who will give us the best odds to get to Atlanta, so we can control our destiny from a National perspective.

I don't see a plan, nor anyone available (unless we pay up, big time).

Guess the bright side, things couldn't get worse. Or could they?

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